What's the greatest slo-mo speed of any Super 8 ca

[Matt Pacini]

I was just curious about this.
My Nikon R-10 was only 48fps, and my Nizo 6080 is not much more than that.

Are there any Super 8 cameras out there that have SERIOUS overcranking ability?

And what bad things would happen, if I modified a Super 8 camera to run REALLY fast? (Just for slo-mo, and nothing else).
Would this be hard to do?

Matt Pacini

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[crimsonson]

The 6080 is 54fps.

The fastest are the Beaulieus. the 40080 ZM IV, 6008, 7008 and 9008 has an option for up to 70-80 fps.

Hope this helps

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[MovieStuff]

Not super 8 but the Fujica ZC1000 goes 72fps.
Incidentaly, if any of you have slowmotion footage transfered to video with the intention of slowing it down even more in post, make sure you transfer at 30fps and not 24. If you transfer at 24, you'll have doubled frames due to the 3:2 pulldown. If you were to do a 50% speed reduction on the timeline, then those doubled frames would double again creating a noticable hiccup in the motion. If you transfer at 30fps, then there are no doubled frames to start with which results in a better slow motion when you do a speed reduction on the time line.

Roger

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Roger Evans
MovieStuff
http://www.afterimagephoto.tv/moviestuff.html

[Hanthx]

The Zm 4 by Beaulieu does 80 frames per second.

S-

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[MovieStuff]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hanthx:
The Zm 4 by Beaulieu does 80 frames per second.
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Show off.

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Roger Evans
MovieStuff
http://www.afterimagephoto.tv/moviestuff.html

[Matt Pacini]

So Roger, is it possible to easily modify a S8 camera to run at like 100+ frames a second?

Matt

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[#Pedro]

the Beaulieus 6008/7008/9008 "pro" go 80 fps. As far as I understood, this is the mechanical limit of the Kodak cart. More would only be possible with sprocket drives before and behind the gate. Perhaps together with the 200 ft drive for Beaulieu? Another point is the mechanical wear of the claw mechanism. High speed cameras (16mm) don?t use claws, but sprockets and double perforated film.
Pedro

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[Matt Pacini]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by #Pedro:
"High speed cameras (16mm) don?t use claws, but sprockets and double perforated film.
Pedro

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Does that mean there are no high speed Super 16 cameras?

Matt Pacini

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[Mikael Sundström]

Why not take an old Beaulieu Zm II or IV and just put 12 v into it ? That would probably work... if you don?t burn the engine that is.. the big problem is how to measure how fast it goes ...

By the way, there is an old version of the B&H Filmo 16mm that makes 128fps. Quite cool. I want one. I?d like to make it run 125 fps ... since i?m on pal 25fps that makes some 5x slomo ))

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Mikael Sundstr?m

[#Pedro]

you cannot simply increase the supply voltage and praying that the speed may increase accordingly!!!! Camera DC motores are REGULATED electronically, that means, that the circuit compares a target framerate with a measured, existing framerate, coming from a tacho generator. This compensates to fresh or to weak batteries or changing loads. Increasing the supply voltage would change NOTHING - until that certain point where the circuit burns. Then your camera is only trash.
For seriously increasing the actual speed, the target value of the regulation circuit must be increased accordingly. And for that, knowledge about how the circuit is designed is undispensable.
Pedro

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